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Re: Benjamin Scott
« Reply #15 on Dec 1, 2006, 1:30pm »		[Quote]
Another thought comes to mind, as during this same general time, Apple River Fort was attacked. The event is reflected in BH's own bio, as well as other letters and artilces of the day. We know where ARF is located, because they found the remains of the fort as well as many artifacts. But it is my understanding that the was a strange lack of lead ammunition found at the scene of battle. These are the kind of twists that this conflict takes when examined.
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« Reply #16 on Dec 7, 2006, 6:23am »		[Quote]
Thank you both very much

When I started researching Kellogs Grove, I didn't realize there would be such little information on it. As noted, even the monument includes names of some who fell at other locations.

Locally there seem to be few who have any real interest or at least that I have found yet. I live seven miles from the monument. The county board in the last month announced that a committee was formed to determine the best way to preserve and promote the monument. Naturally the committee was formed before anyone knew about the committee and of course they made it clear there is no budget for anything. But at least the thought is there.

Of late the monument has been victim to several vandalism attacks and has fallen into disrepair again. The committee's goals include:
A. Security
B. Paving the road to the monument
C. Promoting tourism to the monument

Hopefully something positive will come from it, but with no budget, it is tough to believe it will.
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« Reply #17 on Dec 7, 2006, 6:32am »		[Quote]
Regarding Apple River Fort:

It seems that most of that 'battle' took place not at the fort. According to accounts I came across the Indians realized quickly the futility of the attack on the fort and diverted to unprotected homes in the outlying area of the fort. A rider from the fort also made it past the Indians to summon reinforcements from Galena. That might account for the lack of lead.

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« Reply #18 on Dec 15, 2006, 1:56pm »		[Quote]
Regarding Apple River fort, I would offer that the majority of the shooting engagement indeed swirled in and around the fort. This observation is backed by the eyewitness accounts.

Black Hawk's account does mention "phase 2" of the fight at Apple River fort: "the looting engagement."

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« Reply #19 on Jun 5, 2007, 12:53am »		[Quote]

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And thus you have discovered the fog of the Black Hawk War. It just so happens that our little six month war, which was really two years long if you count the cold war portion of the conflict (not to mention the war of 1812 connection) is a huge black hole that swallows researchers and scholars for years at a time.

But heres what I can tell you, there is a monument located near present day Kent Illinois. At this monument several of the dead from the battle(s) are buried there. There were actuall two battles and they were on June 16 and June 25 1832.

Kellogs Grove was named for Oliver Kellog, who settled in the area in the late 1820's, there were some log cabins and barn and other buildings.

I personally walked the area near the monument, which appears to be private property so I did not look too hard as to not disturb the residents. But without research, it's tough to say just exactly where the original battles took place.


The property is indeed private. My grandfather owns the White farm house that borders the monument. I bet if you were wanting to walk the area behind the fences and around there you could contact him (Sherman Virtue). They are no longer living in the house due to there age, and need for assistance. The farm house and property have been in the family since before 1834 (last records we have were of the house being moved 50' closer to where the street is now) And from what I have been told, the house will be turned over to the city, and used as a museum after my grandparents passing. The house itself has had three additions since the first construction. one done later in the 1800's, one in the very early 1900's, and my grandfathers addition done in the 60's i belive. To this day the family that is farming the land find Aarow heads when plowing the field. It is very interesting, and I have been hearing the storys all my life.

If you need more information I would be more than happy to attempt to get anything I can. just send me a PM.



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